ESTACADA
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
CITY HALL
THURSDAY, JUNE
19, 2003 - 7:00 PM
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called
to order at 7:00 pm.
2. ROLL CALL
Present: Cm. Cameron, Cm. McGregor, Cm. Crosby, Cm.
Copeland, Cm. Sager, Cm. Hartwig, CP McCallister, DCR Hovda.
Absent: Cm. Phillips.
3. APPROVAL OF THE MAY 22,
2003 MINUTES
Cm. Sager
moved to approve the May 22, 2003 minutes.
Cm. Copeland seconded the motion.
Motion passed unanimously.
4. PUBLIC HEARING
Chrm. Cameron
opened the public hearing and asked for abstentions or ex parte contact, there
was none. Staff spoke with the applicant
(Stalcup) and he is aware of the hearing, CP noted that he is not in
attendance. CP McCallister reviewed the
staff report, which recommends approval with conditions.
Chrm. Cameron
read a statement regarding evidence.
There was no
public input.
Chrm. Cameron
closed the public hearing.
Cm. Hartwig
moved to approve Land Partition Application #2003-2 with the conditions in the
staff report. Cm. Crosby seconded the
motion. Roll Call Vote: Cm. McGregor - yes, Cm. Crosby - yes, Cm.
Copeland - yes, Cm. Sager - yes, Cm. Hartwig - yes, Chrm. Cameron - yes. Motion passed 6-0.
Chrm. Cameron
opened the public hearing and asked for abstentions or ex parte contact, there
was none.
CP McCallister
reviewed the staff report, which recommends denial.
Cm. Cameron
asked if they could have applied for a conditional use instead of a zone
change. CP stated that there are some
things that could have been a conditional use, but he'd have to see the exact
intended use to determine if it is appropriate for a conditional use. The only possibility for a conditional use is
if it is determined to be professional or medical offices.
Cm. Cameron
feels this property is in a tough situation because it have been developed for
commercial uses although it is in a residential zone.
Chrm. Cameron
read a statement regarding evidence.
Jason Guthu,
Cascade Mechanical, 29653 SE Weitz Lane, Eagle Creek, stated that they
purchased this property and hope to move their business from SE 4th
Avenue. They have outgrown their
existing location. He stated they have
between 15 and 25 employees, which are dispatched out of their homes. They will store material on site and have 1
employee that makes deliveries to the job sites. Mr. Guthu acknowledges that there are hard
feelings with neighbors from the previous owners. Mr. Guthu stated that he has lived here his
entire life and doesn't want to move his business out of Estacada, but may have
to.
Cm. Crosby
asked if they have any intention of leasing out the property. Mr. Guthu stated no.
Cm. Cameron
feels this business is probably an appropriate use of the property but if the
City rezones the property he is skeptical of was future use may go on the
property.
Pat Pemberton,
Cascade Mechanical, 28501 SE Glover Road, Eagle Creek, stated that the
buildings that are on the property have been there for 15 years and Marmolejos
ran their business as a non-conforming use.
He stated that one of the buildings was built 10 years ago and they got
permits from the City. He stated that if Marmolejos wouldn't have let the
business lapse for a one-year period then they wouldn't have to be applying for
this zone change.
Cm. McGregor
stated that they were doing business through the bankruptcy. Mr. Pemberton stated that yes they were, but
there wasn't any water/sewer/electricity so it is hard to prove.
Cm. Crosby
asked if you could zone it commercial for the life of the current owners.
CP stated no,
you have to impose reasonable conditions.
Cm. Copeland
asked if they could impose a condition to allow an office with store and apply
a max trip count per day. The Commission
discussed this idea but feels it would be hard to enforce.
CP stated that
a new use if approved would have to make all necessary improvements to bring it
up to current standards for that zoning district.
Ed Davis,
Cascade Mechanical, 5112 SE 49th Avenue, Portland, stated that they
plan to utilize the existing buildings on the property and make them attractive
to the neighborhood. He wants to have
this business in Estacada and be proud of where they work. He stated that it would mostly be office staff
on site and one service truck.
Duane Hodsdon,
111 NW 10th Avenue, stated that he lives directly across from the
subject property. He is not completely
prepared for tonight's meeting and will be providing a complete report at the
public hearing for the City Council. He
discussed the loss of value in his property according to the Assessors office
because of previous uses of this property.
CP stated that
the Commission could continue the public hearing if they would like to allow
more time for submission of documents.
The Commission stated they would like to proceed and let further
documents be submitted to the City Council.
Chrm. Cameron
closed the public hearing.
CP reminded
the Commission if they make a recommendation they need to base it on specific
criteria so he can write the recommendation to the Council.
Cm. McGregor
moved to recommend approval to allow the applicant to have office and storage
with a trip count not to exceed 40 per day.
Cm. Copeland seconded the motion; he agrees that they should limit the
approval to this business's specific use.
Chrm. Cameron
likes this business and feels they are great for Estacada, but stated he is not
comfortable with this motion.
Cm. Sager
asked who is going to enforce this condition, he knows that staff doesn't have
time. He feels the City needs to either
approve or deny the application as written.
He knows the Council will make their own decision regardless of what the
Planning Commission recommends.
Cm. Hartwig
agrees with Cm. Sager, and feels it doesn’t really matter what recommendation
they make, the Council will make their own decision. He stated he was in favor of this application
until he heard Mr. Hodsdon's testimony, now he has to rethink his stance. He doesn't like devaluing property.
Cm. McGregor
stated that all property values have gone down according to the Assessor - it
was done because of ballot measures that have passed.
The Commission
discussed the count requirements and enforcement.
Roll Call
Vote: Cm. McGregor - yes, Cm. Crosby -
no, Cm. Copeland - yes, Cm. Sager - no, Cm. Hartwig - no, Chrm. Cameron -
no. Motion failed 2-4.
Cm. McGregor
moved to recommend approval. Cm.
Copeland seconded the motion.
Cm. Sager
supports the move, except he is not comfortable without hearing all of Mr.
Hodsdon's comments.
Roll Call
Vote: Cm. McGregor - yes, Cm. Crosby -
no, Cm. Copeland - yes, Cm. Sager - no, Cm. Hartwig - no, Chrm. Cameron -
no. Motion failed 2-4.
Cm. Sager
moved to recommend denial. Cm. Hartwig
seconded the motion.
Cm. Cameron
stated he'd like to see a conditional use application instead of a zone
change. CP stated a professional office
conditional use doesn't take into consideration storage.
Cm. Cameron
stated that professional offices generally mean law offices, CPA offices,
etc.
Roll Call
Vote: Cm. McGregor - yes, Cm. Crosby -
yes, Cm. Copeland - yes, Cm. Sager - yes, Cm. Hartwig - yes, Chrm. Cameron -
yes. Motion passed 6-0.
CP stated the
City Council will hold a new public hearing on July 28th. Materials may be submitted the week before
the hearing in order to be distributed to the Councilors, but can be submitted
up until the time of the public hearing.
Mr. Guthu
stated that he met with CP before they made this application. He was under the impression that a
conditional use was not a possibility.
He is frustrated because they have spent a lot of money to make this
application only to hear that they should have gotten a conditional use.
Staff stated
the next meeting will be Thursday, July 31st.
5. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was
adjourned at 8:00 pm.